She’s doing well, he said. I’d heard, he said. I’m sure you have, he said — people are talking, he said, they are beginning to take notice. I’m pleased to hear that, he said, it’s what she deserves — she deserves to be recognised. As a matter of fact I saw her at the hotel, he said. You went to that? he said, it didn’t appeal to me at all. Yes, he said, I always try to get along to it — I was on the advisory board, you see, for many years.